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"Dude," I would reply, "that's what they do in the Troma movies, and they make it to video stores. Don't worry about what the blood looks like, just make the damn movie." I continued to make tons of short, crappy movies throughout my teenage years, with the important lesson of quantity over quality that I had learned from Troma, and I kept making cheap crappy movies right through film school at the University of Colorado, where I was lucky to find people like Jason McHugh and Matt Stone, who shared my love for cheap, stupid, brilliant crap. Whereas most film students would save up their money and make one big, expensive, great looking film, we would shoot tons of little shitty ones; about three a semester. We didn't care about how they looked, only that they got made. Quantity over quality.
We made the film, an hour and a half piece called Cannibal! The Musical, and it was, indeed, as crappy as The Toxic Avenger. Maybe crappier. I believe now that having Cannibal and all our other short films from college is the main reason we found success in Hollywood. We arrived in that town not with one film to show, but dozens. Most important, by making a lot of films in our younger years, (one of those short crappy school movies was the first South Park) it helped us to arrive in L.A. with our own unique voice that we had already defined. The studios would eventually corrupt our unique voice, of course, but not until much later in our careers. You see, Lloyd Kaufman knew years ago what most people are just now figuring out--you don't need a big Hollywood studio to make a movie. With the technical advances in editing systems and digital cameras that's becoming more true every day, its all about the output: output, learn by doing. To hell with whether you should shoot at 5.6 or 5.6-8 split. Fuck all that. Just start making crap. Quantity over quality. The first important lesson I learned from Lloyd Kaufman. The second lesson came some ten years after the first, when I was twenty-three, and actually had the opportunity to meet Lloyd Kaufman face to face. It was 1995. At the time, I was living in Los Angeles sleeping on people's floors and running around with Jason and Matt trying to sell Cannibal! The Musical. After its completion, we were rejected at every film festival (except the Denver film festival where my aunt Marilyn worked). Its relative success at small screenings started to make us think more and more that we could actually sell Cannibal to a distributor in L.A. We drove out there, and for months met with lots of people who kissed our asses, told us Cannibal wasn't right for them, but they'd love first rights to our next movie.
Lloyd arrived at our rundown apartment wearing a chic blue suit and a very busy yellow tie. If someone asked me to create a cartoon character of a little cliché Jewish, Mel Brooks-type producer from New York, I would have drawn Lloyd, and I would have done the voice just like he does. "Hi, hi, Lloyd Kaufman from Troma. I love your movie, great stuff. You guys are brilliant. So you guys ready to eat lunch?" "Sure," we said, knowing that doing lunch in L.A. meant a meeting was fairly serious. "Where should we go?" "I saw a Del Taco across the street, you guys like Del Taco?"
But then I saw it in his eyes: This man really does like Del Taco. He wanted it. Bad. We walked over to Del Taco, anticipating what kind of great offer Troma was going to make us on our movie. I can replay the whole meeting in my mind as if it happened hours ago. We all placed our food orders at the counter. We quickly realized that Lloyd had no intention of paying for our tacos. In fact, when Jason offered to pay for Lloyd's beef taco with loads of hot sauce, Lloyd's face lit up like a child at Christmas, and he promptly added some guacamole to his order. We got our food and sat down. The negotiations were about to begin. Lloyd began the conversation by unwrapping his taco and saying that Cannibal was one of the best films he'd seen in the recent months and he wanted to distribute it into video stores. Trying to contain our excitement, we settled into the points of the agreement. "Okay," I believe Jason said, "so how would the deal work?"
We stopped eating tacos. "So how much money do we get up front?" "Oh. Nothing." Lloyd said casually. "We get nothing?"
Lloyd was really enjoying that messy Del Taco food; he sort of painted his face with it. He was now sporting a guacamole mustache. "That's my general offer, yes. It's just sort of how it goes," Lloyd replied, having been through it himself a hundred times, "Not much money to be made in the video business, I'm afraid. Not unless you've got Gremlins or something. Mmm, this taco is really good." He did not seem to care that he looked like a "got guacamole?" advertisement. "Well, then," I think I said, "Why should we even bother giving it to you?" "Well, I just think Cannibal is a really great movie and people should see it. I mean, you guys made it so that people would see it, right?" This statement hit me like a baseball bat in the face, and was the second time Lloyd Kaufman had a huge impact on my life. My buddies and I sat silent for over a minute, but in our heads were all thinking the same thing-- This guy is totally right...This guy with a "got guacamole?" mustache was absolutely right!
Thanks to Lloyd it suddenly became crystal clear to me. Cannibal, our first feature film, was never going to make us a fortune. But having it in video stores, having people all over the country rent it, and pop it into their VCRs thinking, "What the hell is this movie?" as I had done all those years with The Toxic Avenger, well, that's what it's all about. That's why we make movies. Hopefully, that's the same reason you, dear reader, want to make "your own damn" movie too. If you want to make a movie because you want to become rich, go put a
thousand dollars down on thirteen black -- View the Cannibal! The Musical trailer here!
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